HO - Tempe Industrial Lead - Michael Powell

I'm still trying to find a prototypical pike, one that is managable to build but interesting to operate. I've based this idea on a number of visits I've made to the actual location, plus refering to the 2002 UP track charts, and of course hours of peering at Google Earth and Bing Maps.

A potential 16' x 10' purpose built shed could be available for this pike...

Givens and Druthers

  1. Southern Pacific, 1990s time slot (can accomodate current scene with patched or UP locomotives)
  2. Phoenix metro area
  3. motive power GP38/40 or 40/60 combos (want to include SD40s and 45s, but can't figure out how to include a worthwhile section of mainline)
  4. minimum #6 turnouts
  5. traffic - general in reefers, box cars, lumber on center beams, plastic pellets in bulk hoppers, cement hoppers, fuel tankcars
  6. DCC control, single operator
  7. domino construction
  8. no tricky benchwork and hidden staging (any staging out in the open)
  9. minimal scenic effects

This bit of urban freight railroad wanders south from Tempe Junction, and finally peters out a little way south of the Loop 202 Santan Freeway…

On the way, it visits various industries that see a handful of cars each. Not many cars, but plenty of variety – tanks, coil cars, box cars, lumber racks, shorty cement hoppers, 100t hoppers for plastic pellets… The plan stays pretty faithful to the prototype, including having the spurs correctly oriented. West Chandler has been flopped though, so the tank tracks are on the east side of the lead not the west. Having the spurs face the right way should help operations be more prototypical – now all I have to do is find out how the prototype operates!

Starting from Tempe Jct, follow the line south (clockwise) round the room until you arrive at West Chandler Industrial Park. Each time you’re facing the pike, south is to your right and you’re facing east. I’m absurdly pleased at this bit of geographical sincerity, as I’m sure it will help the sense of a line that goes from somewhere to somewhere else, not just round a room. Theoretically, if a 100 foot+ linear space became available, I could unplug the LDEs, substitute some straight ‘fillers’ for the bendy bits, and replicate the branch in all its spindly glory.

Ops remain a bit of a mystery – I’ve heard traffic on this line, but always late at night/early hours of the morning. I’m guessing the profusion of grade crossings may have something to do with that, but I really don’t know. And just how many trains traverse this line? One a day? Three a week? I’ve never seen anything moving, just the switchers slumbering over at McQueen and various freight cars lolling about in the sun.

My biggest concern with this pike is that basically there is only one out and back local to operate, which strikes me as a bit limiting in the amount of real estate that is available. I've tried a few ways to combine a piece of the mainline so that I can run haulers that interchange with the Industrial Lead, but have gotten stuck.

So, that's where things lie at the moment, over to you guys!

Tempe

han_schors's picture

 Hi Michael,

Long time ago I saw a plan By Andy Sperandeo "San Jacinto and Santa Fe" and having about the same space I've been tinkering a lot to find out what will fit. In my plans  i also had to deal with a door, Andy also. You have the same space too and used it well.

It is difficult to talk about a design without knowing the room it's build in. Where is the door, the windows, the workbench, the duck-under, etc? The building is still in the air too; if you want a bigger pike can you build bigger?

Sorry, but your question seems a bit odd to me; you are proud having designed a industrial branch in its glory and you are complaining afterwards it turned out to be just an industrial branch in its glory. If you want more divers operation go for a different kind of branch. Your remark you still have to find out about ops indicated to me you skipped a basic part of good design. It looks nice so it must be ok.

Besides you are suffering from what Byron Henderson called a prototypecaly disease (something like that); take Tempe Ind.Park: is looking nice, may be highly prototypecaly, but for show only. The important part is off the layout; a scene or LDE should also add operation. In the other stations all spurs are facing the same direction, an asset in real life, but is it wise operationaly? 

Your design is very good, even briljant; you are one of the few who get in what they wanted. Problem is you are not that sure about what you really want. Before going to the drawing board you have a lot of thinking to do. What kind of ops do you want to have? Is the branch you'r modeling sustaining that kind of operation? Is every little LDE you'r adding also adding to ops?

Keep smiling and keep having fun

Paul

 

 

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